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  • November 20, 2023 at 10:52 pm #419

    “CDC confessed they have NO studies that scientifically prove – or provide evidence of – the existence of the alleged Dengue virus… or even records of the alleged “virus” being found in and purified from bodily fluid/tissue/excrement by Anyone, Anywhere, Ever.”

    …Which is the apparent result of a Freedom of Information Act request from a Christine Massey

    Her request (in summary):

    “1. All studies/reports in the possession, custody or control of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and/or the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) that scientifically prove/evidence the existence of the alleged Dengue virus (showing that the alleged particle exists and causes the disease that it’s alleged to cause);

    Or

    2. If the CDC has no studies responsive to #1 above, then please indicate such explicitly, and provide all studies and/or reports in the possession, custody or control of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and/or the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) describing the purification of particles that are alleged to be said virus(es), directly from bodily fluid/tissue/excrement, with purification confirmed via EM imaging (the images must be available as well).”

    If you follow her rabbit-hole, the CDC said this:

    “A search of our records failed to reveal any documents pertaining to your request. Specifically, the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases searched using the above information, but no records were found”.

    Say it isn’t so.

    How am I not surprised, because, if she’s asking such a thing every time, along with her requirements (includes no “in-silico” gene sequence, no viral-culture, etc.), for the typical government bureaucrat (probably some intern, in this case), that all sounds like too much work.

    I’ll try and be of assistance.

    This also allows me a segue to introduce virology from the beginning, as the study of dengue and the viruses that cause it go back to the genesis of virology itself.

    Virology really begins with the work of Martus Beijerinck concerning tobacco mosaic virus. Before his work in the late 19th Century, the term “virus” could apply to any infectious agent, or even venom, originally.

    An excellent article detailing the beginnings of virology can be found here-
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/56736

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    November 20, 2023 at 10:50 pm #417

    Addendum: It doesn’t appear if I use the octothorpe or not. Thus, fuck it.

    November 20, 2023 at 10:50 pm #416

    (Due to the one-link-per-post policy of this forum, many of my links will be “commented-out” with octothorpes, so just remove that when copying and pasting the link into your favorite browser.)

    Viral Isolation Criteria- Dr. Mark Bailey

    1. A unique particle with the characteristics of a virus is purified from the tissues or fluids of a sick living being. The purification method to be used is at the discretion of the virologists but electron micrographs must be provided to confirm the successful purification of morphologically-identical alleged viral particles;
    2. The purified particle is biochemically characterized for its protein components and genetic sequence;
    3. The proteins are proven to be coded for by these same genetic sequences;
    4. The purified viral particles alone, through a natural exposure route, are shown to cause identical sickness in test subjects, by using valid controls;
    5. Particles must then be successfully re-isolated (through purification) from the test subject at 4 above, and demonstrated to have exactly the same characteristics as the particles found in step 1.

    (He then suggests an alternative study, which I’d say has even less chance of being done, unless he’d like to pony up the funds…)

    Alright, seems reasonable enough, though all of those requirements aren’t typically fulfilled by one paper/one study or at one time, though there is no “one-paper” requirement given. Also, there is a caveat in the “purified viral particles alone, through a natural exposure route, are shown to cause identical sickness” requirement, as the natural exposure route might not involved purified viral particles at all, and in fact might not be precisely known, at least for some time following the discovery of a viral illness.

    Now, as is evident in Dr. Bailey’s requirements, as well as my experience hearing the concerns of virus skeptics, there seems to be a general distrust of viral culture, i.e. the propagation of viruses in cell-culture as must be done if you’d like more viruses, as they have no way to replicate on their own.

    Secondly, there is a distrust of molecular biology, and gene sequencing in particular, as a genetic sequence is thought to just be an “in-silico” ghost of something purely fabricated by a computer program.

    So, with this in mind, let us begin to explore the field of virology, and perhaps discover what validity it might possess and what evidence exists.

    I’d like to begin here, with an author at Lew Rockwell’s site:

    #https://is.gd/VMkJ01

    November 14, 2023 at 8:10 pm #408

    Utterly brilliant.

    Should be a powerful incentive for the purchase of electric cars as well!

    They seem to always be pushing engineers and auto makers to thread the needle.

    They’re about to be threading the thumb-tack.

    October 26, 2023 at 11:10 am #399

    Wow. I thought it was going to be a high-speed rail proposal, haha.

    The cops don’t have a chance in that situation unless they also have a proper bike.

    October 25, 2023 at 12:21 pm #397

    “Plus, there’s nothing quite as satisfying after a lifetime of being held hostage by Big Oil…”

    Originally, I was a fan of electric and alternative fuel vehicles for this reason. But, only if you could generate the electricity (or fuel) independently, as with solar or wind or whatever you could glean from your homestead. Replacing oil companies with utility companies doesn’t exactly stoke my inner fires. Also, the cellphone-on-wheels concept, along with the predominance of the nanny-car, turns me off like Madeleine Albright in a tutu.

    October 21, 2023 at 8:23 pm #392

    Graphite could be synthesized in nearly unlimited quantities by anyone with a teaspoon of gumption. What a crock. It’s all a bullshit minefield of contrived scarcity meant to rob us of whatever prosperity we have left. See, I think America has enough territory that we could buy or trade nothing from anyone else till the end of humanity and we’d be quite wealthy and bask in abundance the entire time. IF enough people wanted it. Hell, even if they didn’t, but those of us who did weren’t fucked with.

    October 20, 2023 at 5:38 pm #390

    …Seems to work well. 🙂

    October 20, 2023 at 5:37 pm #389

    Helot,

    I plan to “comment-out” many links, as is done in coding, as I think most people know how to cut and paste.

    Let’s see if that works:

    #https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/01/220120103403.htm

    October 16, 2023 at 11:50 am #384

    Helot,

    Your one-link-only rule seems to be correct! Why, what a pain in the ass. This means my research reports will be 45 posts long. I was wondering about the maximum post length, but with this limitation, that doesn’t matter much.

    October 15, 2023 at 6:52 pm #382

    RE: OffGridWithDougAndStacy,

    I don’t know, Helot. It looks like they might think viruses exist. 😉

    I’m assembling a considerable amount of research now, that should be of interest to you and others here. I think I know which way I will approach this, too. So stay tuned. 🙂

    October 12, 2023 at 11:19 am #377

    Well, ReadyK, whatever you’ve posted here, YouTube bleached it, right quick. :p

    October 10, 2023 at 1:09 am #373

    “I saw where you, or someone very much quite like you, made a comment on this woman’s Substack page, on how she wasn’t doing something right.”

    Hmmm, surely wasn’t me. I’ve never commented on a “substack”. Behind the times, I know.

    I actually thought she seemed knowledgeable and what she had to say was interesting. These clots need to be well documented and, though it might be suppressed, papers need to go out.

    October 9, 2023 at 7:31 pm #368

    https://lrc-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/2023/10/Screenshot_20231003-125924-620×764.png

    “…A submicroscopic particle called a “virus” that can somehow travel great distances, freely enter a
    human body…” “…None of these actions has ever been observed…”

    Or those actions HAVE been observed, though some of the evidence is indirect. You don’t “see” the wind,
    but you observe its effects. Trillions of submicroscopic particles/waves called “photons” travel 93
    million miles to illuminate the planet, also, for example. A “photon” might be a theoretical construct, but
    true counterpart exists, which mediates electromagnetic radiation, but that’s another barrel of worms.

    “Also, they’ve never been able to take any of those “virus” particles by themselves (with nothing else
    added), introduce them into a living organism via a natural mode of entry, & produce the disease they’re
    alleged to cause.”

    This assumes that viruses being completely isolated is part of a “natural” mode of entry.

    But I’ll address much more of this, soon. I’m not even sure where to begin. :p

    I’ll start somewhere. Still fighting a whole list of demons in a time-crunch.

    October 9, 2023 at 1:35 pm #367

    This is just because…

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