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Addendum:
It appears I was accused of “sophistry” in this comment from an EP Autos patron:
“Pure sophistry. For example, you say:
[Indentations added for clarity]
‘Funny enough, much data for this virus can easily be found… At CDC’s virus arbovirus catalog:
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/arbocat/VirusDetails.aspx?ID=129
…You know, where they have no records of dengue virus causing disease, being purified
or imaged by electron microscopy…’
Now, here’s what the CDC says (or perhaps doesn’t say) about the “method of isolation of Dengue 2”:
Section III – Method of Isolation
Inoculation Date 6/12/1944
Animal (Details will be in Section 6)
Man*
Route Inoculated
Intracutaneous + iv Reisolation
No
Other Reasons
Classical dengue with rash after appropriate incubation in first and subsequent volunteers
and Ae aegypti transmission.**
Homologous Antibody Formation by Source Animal
Not tested
Test(s) Used
Footnotes
Where’s the evidence of its isolation??????? Come on now.”
(“Sophistry” seems to indicate that I’m deliberately lying and/or attempting to mislead for some reason, which I don’t much appreciate, but let’s let that go for now.)
This is a DATA SHEET. It’s not meant to contain great detail. This comment is a little like decrying a book’s table-of-contents for its lack of detail.
If you want detailed information about viral isolations or any of the other information, it is contained in the references, listed at the end:
“1. SABIN, A.B. 1950. Bact. Reviews 14:225-232.
2. SABIN, A.B. and SCHLESINGER, R.W. 1945. Science 101:640-642.
3. SMITH, T.J., et al. 1970. J. Virology 5:524-532.
4. STOLLAR, V. 1969. Virology 39: 426-438.
5. STEVENS, T.M. and SCHLESINGER, R.W. 1965. Virology 27:103-112.
6. HOTTA, S. and EVANS, C.A. 1956. Virology 2:704-706.
7. SATHER, G.E. and HAMMON, W. McD. 1958. Unpublished data.
8. MEIKLEJOHN, G., et al. 1952. Am. J. Trop. Med. Hyg. 1:51-58.
9. BRANDT, W.E., et al. 1970. J. Virol. 6:500-506.
10. BRANDT, W.E., et al. 1970. J. Immunol. 105:1565-1568.
11. CARDIFF, R.D., et al. 1971. J. Virol. 7:15-23.
12. HAMMON, W.McD., et al. 1960. Science 131:1102-1103.
13. HAMMON, W.McD., et al. 1961. SEATO Med. Res. Monograph No. 2:30-35.
14. HAMMON, W.McD. and SATHER, G.E. 1964. Mil. Med. 129:130-135.
15. IBRAHIM, A.N. and HAMMON, W.McD. 1968. J. Immunol. 100:86-92
16. IBRAHIM, A.N. and HAMMON, W.McD. 1968. J. Immunol. 100:93-98.
17. McCLOUD, T.G., et al. 1971. Am. J. Trop. Med. Hyg. 20:964-968.
18. RUDNICK, A. and CHAN, Y.C. 1965. Science 149:683-689.
19. RUDNICK, A. 1971. Unpublished data.
20. ATCHISON, R.W., et al. 1971. Unpublished data.
21. CRAGIHEAD, J.E., et al. 1966. Arch. Path. 81:232-239.
22. CHASTEL, C. and FOURQUET, R. 1972. Rev. Epid. Med. Soc. Sante Publ. 20:499.
23. UC ICMR, San Francisco, CA. 1973. Unpublished data.
24. MORALES, A., et al. 1973. Am. J. Trop. Med. Hyg. 22:785-787.
25. HALSTEAD, S.B. 1984. Rev. Inf. Dis. 6:251-264.
26. GUZMAN, M.G., et al. 1984. PAHO Bull. 18:213-20.
27. DE MADRID, A.T. and PORTERFIELD, J.S. 1974. J. Gen. Virol. 23:91-96.
28. CALISHER, C.H., et al. Personal communication. 1983.
29. Rudnik, A. et al. 1975. Unpublished data.
30. Khin, M.M. and Than, K.A. 1983. Am. J. Trop. Med. Hyg. 32:590-594.”
Much of the info in the data sheet is annotated with a number giving the reference from which it was derived.
I included some of these papers in my research (as well as some that weren’t listed), but some papers listed here aren’t easily accessed. The point being, it is evident that the CDC DID have access to them, and likely much more information than I could access, and they could’ve provided, at least, SOME information with Massey’s FOIA request.

